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Upright Pianos

Kawai K15-E Pianos

Kawai K2 Pianos

Kawai K3 Pianos

Kawai K5 Pianos

Kawai K6 Pianos

Kawai K8 Pianos

Kemble K109 Pianos

Kemble K113 Pianos

Kemble Cambridge Pianos

Kemble Oxford Contemp

Kemble Concerto Pianos

Kemble Classic T Pianos

Kemble K121 Pianos

Kemble CT121 Pianos

Kemble Conservatoire

Kemble Chopin Pianos

Kemble Centennial Pianos

Yamaha b1 Pianos

Yamaha b2 Pianos

Yamaha b3 Pianos

Yamaha P116 Pianos

Yamaha P121 Pianos

Yamaha U1 Pianos

Yamaha U3S Pianos

Yamaha YUS1 Pianos

Yamaha YUS3 Pianos

Yamaha YUS5 Pianos

Yamaha SU118 Pianos

Yamaha SU7 Pianos

Weber W112D Pianos

Weber W114D Pianos

Weber W121D Pianos

Weber W131D Pianos

Steinmayer S108 Pianos

Steinmayer S110 Pianos

Steinmayer S118 Pianos

 

Grand Pianos

Kawai GM10 Pianos

Kawai GE20 Pianos

Kawai GE30 Pianos

Kawai RX1 Pianos

Kawai RX2 Pianos

Kawai RX3 Pianos

Kawai RX5 Pianos

Kawai RX6 Pianos

Kawai RX7 Pianos

Yamaha GB1K Pianos

Yamaha GC1 Pianos

Yamaha GC2 Pianos

Yamaha AL1 Pianos

Yamaha C1 Pianos

Yamaha C2 Pianos

Yamaha C3 Pianos

Yamaha C5 Pianos

Yamaha C6 Pianos

Yamaha C7 Pianos

Weber W150D Pianos

Weber W175D Pianos

Weber W185D Pianos

 

Digital Pianos

Kawai CL26 Digital Pianos

Kawai CL36 Digital Pianos

Kawai ES6 Digital Pianos

Kawai KDP80 Digital Piano

Kawai CN23 Digital Pianos

Kawai CN33 Digital Pianos

Kawai CN43 Digital Pianos

Kawai CS3 Digital Pianos

Kawai CS6 Digital Pianos

Kawai CS9 Digital Pianos

Kawai CA13 Digital Pianos

Kawai CA63 Digital Pianos

Kawai CA93 Digital Pianos

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Compare the main brands Yamaha, Kawai, Kemble, Weber and Steinmayer together

Very few showrooms in the UK can offer this

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Thinking of buying a second hand Yamaha U1 or U3?

Are you attracted by the idea of buying a secondhand Yamaha U1 or U3 for around £2,500 from one of the many dealers on the internet selling ‘grey’ imports from Japan, and are not sure whether this will represent good value for money compared with a new piano?  

 

What is a ‘grey’ import?

This term refers to Yamaha U1 and U3 models imported mostly from Japan after they have finished many years of use usually in Japanese music schools.  They are sold by many different dealers a number of whom have quite high profiles on the internet or ebay for example. They are often described as restored with terms such as new strings and re-faced hammers. Some on ebay are even described as manufacturer refurbished. Lets examine some of these claims and assess what they really mean.

 

New Strings?

This almost always refers to the little string loop to which the hammer butt spring attaches which stops the hammer resting on the steel strings (which make the sound) and helps the hammer to return for fast repetition. Do not be mistaken into thinking that the steel strings in the piano have been replaced. The main steel strings in a piano cost around £1,500 to replace and this is almost never done to a ‘grey’ import.

 

Re-faced hammers?

Sounds good doesn’t it, as if a major job has been carried out. No. Re-facing hammers means removing sufficient of the layers of wool felt to restore the original shape of the hammer from a state of extreme wear. The problem with this is that you end up with a hammer that has much too little felt depth left with which to apply toning procedures. This is why many ‘grey’ imports have a tonal quality which sounds so bright and almost metallic, and therefore very difficult to play with a full range of dynamics from pianissimo upwards.

 

Manufacturer Re-furbished

This seems to be a menu choice on ebay which a seller may choose to ‘best’ describe his or her item for sale. Yamaha do not allow any third party website advertising so any of these pianos being sold on ebay are most likely not being sold by Yamaha Authorised Dealers and will not have been refurbished by Yamaha, as implied.

 

What’s the answer?

There are some secondhand U1 and U3 models available which have been sourced and supplied to authorised dealers by Yamaha. These pianos have had to pass Yamaha’s own stringent quality controls. The ones that we have seen so far appear to have been very well selected and have hammers that have not been worn and therefore have not needed to be re-faced. Any other refurbishment work required has been carried out by Yamaha themselves in their own factory and they are sold with a Yamaha five year guarantee. These pianos are only available from Yamaha Authorised Dealers and are well worth the small premium over their ‘grey’ import counterparts.

 

So should I buy a secondhand U1 / U3 or a new piano?

Pianos deteriorate from the day they are new. The soundboard is made from wood which swells and contracts with climate changes and eventually loses its ability to sustain sound and tone. The steel strings are under great tension and gradually become work hardened with successive striking of the hammers making them stiff and less flexible thereby losing their ability to vibrate with sub divisions along their length with the exactness required for good harmonics. This is why older pianos often have strings which appear to beat or have a ringing, out of tune quality to their sound even when they have just been tuned. There is much about this subject in the chat forums on the internet and there is no doubt that a good secondhand U1 or U3 can be a good buy for light domestic use.  A new piano will have a new soundboard and new steel strings as well as everything else being new. The best way to decide is to visit a showroom (preferably Yamaha Authorised) with secondhand and new pianos, and make your own critical comparison.

 

 

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